Water-fueled car: too good to be true?

You MUST put energy into water to split it into hydrogen and oxygen (e.g. electricity from a battery: the well-known process of electrolysis) which could then be run through the fuel cell to produce...electricity. The first law of thermodynamics allows no system whereby you can get more energy out than you put in, in fact you'd inevitably waste some as heat, so why would you put a fuel cell in between your power source (e.g. battery) and the motor? It'd be a lot more efficient to just run the car off of the battery, not to mention saving the expense of a fuel cell, and the weight penalty of lugging it and the water around.

If water is the only source of power, you could run the exhaust pipe into the fuel tank and run forever without refueling - another perpetual motion machine in hi-tech guise; undoubtedly a scam.

This is a big step towards global economy new era, it creates new directions to many industries in the world, specially food industries which needs to fastract its productivity level to eradicate high level of poverty around the globe. Because water is everywhere, nations no longer need to import fuel materials, therefore,processing of all kinds of products wiil eventually lower its cost, became more affordable to all people or consumers that will lead to equality in economic rights which is far from a reality as of today, and eventually world peace and prosperity among nations.May God continue blessing us for this new development succeed. Thank you.

BOYCOTT ALL CARS THAT ARE LESS THAN 100 MPG

Do you want to see a quick resolution to the energy crisis?

The public should boycott from purchasing any vehicle that is less than 100 mpg.

That is surely to grab the automobile industry attention worldwide to produce an energy efficient car that does 100 mpg or better on alternative energy – the vehicle must be pollution free.

“The ‘big three’ is not the ‘big three’ anymore,” Iacocca told National Public Radio, referring to the falling sales of General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. “[They] didn’t adapt quickly enough to the energy problem in this country [and were] not ready with the right kind of cars.”

Any big corporation that is too bureaucratic and cumbersome to quickly react to changing market conditions is doomed to failure.

In today’s fast moving market conditions and technology – you must be innovative, utilize the cutting edge of technology and produce a quality and economical product.

The public has a short memory, all they care is what have you done for me lately.

In life we must always live in hope.

Jay Draiman

Clearly the membrane electrode assembly (MEA) uses something akin to well known metal hydrides to separate hydrogen from water in the 'generation' step of the power cycle.

In other words, this is really just an electric battery technology that uses water in an open loop rather than closed loop chemical cycle. The equivalent of metal hydride in the MEA gets consumed in the reaction, and I'll bet dollars to donuts that the the MEA gets 'reformed' overnight by being plugged into the electrical grid, or worse case, is removed and replaced with a factory 'reprocessed' MEA at very very regular intervals.

This car doesn't run on water, it runs on the 'secret' material in the MEA - probably metal hydride.

The sad thing about this nonsense is that the hydride as fuel system may well represent a very promising alternative to the use of gasoline. Not because it provides a "free lunch", but because it has the potential to be as efficient as gasoline, and less polluting at the same time. See this: http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007b/070827WoodallNanotech.html

You may visit "http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4929.80.html" for looking into the patented information relating to GENEPAX technology.

This will be our downfall.

First corn for ethanol, now water for fuel.

Next thing you know, water will be at $5.00 a gallon along with ethanol and oil.

in the past, but now is a bust. The ramifications of the damage done by staying at the party too long are drastic if we don't open our minds to newer better technologies. We must open our minds to ALL new possibilities & solutions. I am always suspect of naysayers, who deride new systems, always questioning their motives.

Do they work for corporate America?

Do they work for the current energy providing companies?

Is this an attempt at negative propaganda by the coal, oil, nuclear, farming, hydrogen cell, auto manufacturing lobbies to block a budding technology that could derail the obscene gravy train they currently ride?

Are we facing an energy paradigm shift as drastic as introduction of steam locomotives, or that of trading animal 'horsepower' for mechanical?

This is hardly the first article dealing with the water powered car. Do a Google search and you will find several other inventors, some valid & some likely shysters.

For those ingrained in the restricting belief of the laws of thermodynamics I would point out gravity is still considered just a never completely proven theory.

How many of you are aware India will offer a mass produced car in the next 1-2 years that runs on compressed air only? Google air car, but let's take it even a step farther & cover the surface of the cars with solar panels so the sun's energy compresses more fuel while you are driving (or parked even). Can you imagine driving coast to coast and NEVER having to stop to refuel?

The possibilities are almost unlimited when we: 1) Recognize a detrimental problem; 2) Apply existing technologies to the problem; 3) Eliminate impediments to implementing solutions; 4) Free ourselves to think outside the box.

We must also realize "Rome wasn't built in a day, but it got built". Unfortunately, it appears we have a very pressing time constraint of climate change looming, and an associated threat of consuming the existing resources necessary to evolve to renewable, sustainable, non-polluting systems for ALL humans rather than just a fortunate select few.

Open your minds, free yourselves from restricting religious, technical, corporate dogma, and let's get busy. Relegate the shills, naysayers, and obstructionists to the back of the bus, or hope just becomes another four letter insult to our species.

The answer is to use thermoelectric modules, using wasted engine heat, to power the oxyhydrgen generator.

BMW has a prototype car that uses a thermoelectric generator (TEG), that replaces the alternator. They estimate a 5% fuel savings under real driving conditions.

An electric water vehicle hybrid could be built that would not use an internal combustion engine. Using oxyhydrogen, generated via the vehicles batteries and/or capacitors, to burn in a heating device, that powers thermoelectric modules, also called thermoelectric generators (TEG), that charges the electrical storage system. The water exhaust would be captured and put back into the oxyhydrogen device. Linear electrical generator shock absorbers could also add electrical charging capacity. No fossil fuel would be required, only water to convert to oxyhydrogen.

Has this car been proven yet, the web site now is just one page with a supportive message that basicly says they dont have the resourse's to complete the project, some one must know :-) Good site to lookup is wiki for this they take the "Popular Mechanics" which is a bit biased and Oil driven....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_water_fuel_inventions